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<Show: BECK>
<Date: November 23, 2009>
<Time: 17:00>
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<Type: Show>
<Head: BECK for November 23, 2009 - Part 1>
<Sect: News; Domestic>
<Byline: Glenn Beck, Dave Ramsey>
<Guest: David Horowitz>
<Spec: Politics; Policies; Government>
GLENN BECK, HOST: Welcome to THE GLENN BECK PROGRAM.
Tonight, I've got a few questions for you. You got to ask yourself -- first of all, did you see the front page of The New York Times ? Yes, nobody else did, either. It's interesting because it reads more like a history book than, you know, today's current news.
I want you to ask yourself: gee, should we believe The New York Times if they say the same thing this program has been saying for months, if not years?
And then also, did you -- did you see anywhere in your paper today about the global warming hoax? Are we all done with that big hoax?
And are we spending ourselves and taxing ourselves into oblivion?
Let me ask you this: do you agree with this, We shall all consider ourselves unauthorized to saddle our prosperity with our debt and morally bound to pay them ourselves -- agree or disagree? Well, if you agree, you're just -- you're just hanging with that radical revolutionary radical, Thomas Jefferson.
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BECK: How true that is. We are morally responsible to pay for it.
Hello, America.
I have to start the program today with The New York Times -- and maybe it's just me -- but when The New York Times basically comes out and confirms that everything that I've been talking about for the past -- well, really -- for the past few years, things that The New York Times has made fun of me on, you'd think that maybe it would be -- I mean, at least, maybe somebody in the newsroom would go, that's ironic, huh? And maybe a little reaction to the news on Capitol Hill -- but no, no, no.
The stories that we want to cover tonight are all about sustainability and accountability. None of that exists in Washington. It has to at your house, but not at the White House.
The number one thing I get asked all the time is, Glenn, I get it. What can we do about it?
We know that calling our elected officials -- that hasn't really been working out well, has it? I mean, they are more worried about the special interests, like SEIU and ACORN, than I think they are worried about you. That's about to change. They are more concerned with securing votes than doing what's actually right for America.
Look, if this health care bill was right, would you need a $100 million bribe? Oh, what are they actually calling it?
Senator Mary Landrieu from Louisiana, she was on the fence with this health care bill, but then she ended up voting for it. What changed her mind? Some amazing cost-cutting maneuver, something that she was reading the bill and went, Oh, my gosh, that's going to make sure that everybody gets Band-Aids who has boo-boos.
No, no, it was reported on Friday that her vote was sold for $100 million. Yes, $100 million, right there in the health care bill --a bill about health and care and covering people on health-related issues.
Senator Landrieu was assured that her state, Louisiana, in the bill, would get $100 million in aid.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D), LOUISIANA: I am not going to be defensive about asking for help in this situation. And it is not a $100 million fix. It's a $300 million fix.
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BECK: Well, I'm sorry. So we know you're hooking, but you're just not cheap. It's $300 million.
She went on to point out that there is bipartisan support for this money in Louisiana. Oh! Well, how about is there support in Texas for it? How about Washington, are you for it? Oregon, are you cool? Ohio, are you good with it? Oh, that's a great.
And a Republican governor was for it in Louisiana. No way that a Republican in Louisiana was for it. No, look, the bipartisan compass spilleth it over with support.
I guess shame is dead. Shame died, but these guys, these guys --they didn't die. Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, General Motors, Chrysler, Citigroup, Bank of America -- these guys are all too big to die, all too-big-to-fail. Yes.
Let the system -- what we used to call the free-market system --work. When will someone in Washington take their greasy grimy little head out of the box that they are now nailing shut and say, Hey, gee, wait a minute. That $12 trillion in debt that we have, I don't think we can pay that off. We can't, even if we took the combined profits of all fortune 500 companies, all of them, for the next 145 years. Not including the interest.
This isn't sustainable. When will somebody in Washington say maybe we should stop spending?
Oh, stop scaring people, Glenn! It's America. America can't fail. It's America!
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know we had magic dust and we could completely write the rules -- financial rules any way we wanted.
I can finally say to you, don't take my word for what is coming. Take it from The New York Times. Of course, they are a little late to the Glenn party, but we'll take it. Here is the headline today: Federal Government Faces Ballooning Debt Payments. Dateline: Washington. The United States government is facing -- is financing its more than $1 trillion a year borrowing with IOUs on terms that seem to be too good to be true. Quote, Treasury officials now face a trifecta of headaches, a mountain of new debt, a balloon of short-term borrowing that comes due in the months ahead and interest rates that are sure to climb back to normal as soon as the Federal Reserve decides that the emergency has passed.
Hmm. So wait a minute, what does that mean? How does even a slight raise in the interest rate affect you? The Times goes on to explain that if the Fed raises the interest rates one percentage point, it will cost you an extra $80 billion every year including this one, equal, quote, to the combined budgets of the Department of Energy and Department of Education. Moms, you want your kids to have a good education? You better hope the federal government or the Fed doesn't raise interest rates one point.
Now, how about that $12 trillion debt? Well, here we go. The White House estimates that the government's tab for servicing the $12 trillion debt will top $700 billion a year in 2019, that's up from $202 billion this year. Even if the annual budget deficits shrink drastically, other forecasters say the figure could be much higher.
Two things on this one: maybe one of the other forecasters might happen to be -- oh, I don't know -- the author of this book Common Sense. A book that has been on The New York Times own best-selling list for 23 straight weeks. That's five months! That little tidbit, let me give it to you, on page 25.
By 2019, our annual interest payment on the national debt will balloon to $806 billion.
If you want the news, maybe you should stop reading The Times, because they're a little behind the times. Five months, New York Times, maybe you should read them.
That interest payment is the equivalent of one TARP bill every year just to service the debt. Do you remember how we used to argue about the TARP bill? How we said that's outrageous? How much money are we spending? And that was supposed to fix the system.
The next one was to create jobs. This will do nothing! The Times also explains that an additional $500 billion in interest expense payments would total more than, quote, The combined federal budgets this year for education, energy, homeland security, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Gee, The New York times, maybe you should have read this!
But here's another little tidbit that The Times only discovered today. Page A-1, The competing demands could deepen political battles over the role and size of the government, the trade-offs between taxes and spending, the choices between helping older generations versus younger ones, and the questions about who should ultimately shoulder the burden.
Let me translate for you: rationing -- no, that's crazy talk! Death panels -- that Sarah Palin, she's out of control!
The New York Times is just discovering all of this today, but for anybody who watches this program on a nightly basis, let me show you -- let me show you The New York Times -- what I said on August 6th.
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BECK: I want to make it very, very clear -- what these people are talking about is how to ration in the case of an emergency. They define that as a shortage, a shortage of kidneys, hospital beds or flu vaccines, a shortage. But what we have to remember is universal health care creates another shortage, a shortage of money, and when we are out of money, these people will begin making the rules, governing your health care.
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BECK: Gee, and The New York Times wonders why they're losing readers. Maybe, it's because reading their paper is like entering a time machine or reading the news in your rearview mirror.
They don't bother to jump on the ACORN story or the Van Jones story. One of them with communists and the other one with corruption and hookers and pimps!
The New York Times, while they have this story today on page A-1, that the deficit is crippling, and gee, that might be a problem, the interest on the debt is insurmountable. The minute the Feds start raising the interest rates, we're still talking about health care. How is that possible?
By the way, health care, according to the latest FOX News Poll shows what you know -- based on what you know about the health care reform legislation, do you want it or not? Thirty-five percent say, Yes, I'll take that, 35 percent! You got to ask yourself, why? Well, I'll give you the answers here, and I'm sure The New York Times will report on that answer sometime maybe in February or March.
But here are the answers of why 35 percent favor it and it's being rammed down our throats: because these politicians need the framework to be able to control you and ration everything that you have from electricity to health care, to energy, to welfare, to housing. They need a structure. For when this thing starts to collapse, they can control it.
The second thing is, they need every dime they can squeeze out of you. I don't care what tax bracket you're in. Because they have lied to you and they've lied to me, now, they're about to be trapped in those lies and they need an escape hatch!
That's also the reason -- because you know this instinctively --why Sarah Palin sold 300,000 books in one week. People are looking for anybody -- anybody -- who is not like what we have come to know in Washington. Someone that is just telling the truth.
It's why -- when I was on the book tour this weekend, one of the stops was in Florida. Over 25,000 people showed up. That was the number given to The New York Times , 25,000. The unofficial number, the people at The Villages say they thought it was closer to 35,000 people.
Shockingly, The New York Times did a story on this, this crowd here. But they -- they and the rest of the media didn't quote how many people were there. Not a single -- I mean, a joke from the stage they would say there were nine people there. They didn't even say nine. They said nothing about it.
They can't tell you the truth. They can't tell you the truth for a couple of reasons. One, I think, they're busy fundamentally transforming this country. It's the culmination of everything progressives have dreamt about in the past 100 years. That's why, despite the obvious unsustainable path we're on and the hordes of people desperate for anything else, someone to tell them the truth -- think out of the box! No, no. Those people are being ignored, at best. Why?
This show is going to stop asking why. I don't really care anymore. I don't care.
America, we cannot wait for a leader anymore. The people must lead, and the leader will follow. I announced this weekend that I'm going to -- I'm sorry, but I'm taking control of my own life, and I'd like you to join me.
I'm going to have educational conventions all around the country coming next year. I'm going to do my best to get the best experts in to teach you and me everything we need to know about community organizing, about history, about the Constitution, about finance, about your rights, about what's happening in your own schools, and how to change it, because you must know the truth, and you must know what we facing if we to solve it.
You can get all the details at GlennBeck.com. But we're going to do that the first eight months out of the year, and then, on August 28th -- write this down in your calendar -- I want you to go to Washington one more time. I want to meet you at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.
You're going to find this as a complete surprise, but this may be the very last event done at the Lincoln Memorial of any great size. The government wants to make it almost impossible to stage events or rallies at this site, which means it probably will be the last large gathering there.
But we are going to educate ourselves, and we're going to prepare ourselves so you have teeth. I don't care if you're a Republican, Democrat or independent. If you are standing up for accountability and honesty, then you need to have some teeth! And you need to come and gather in a group. They need to fear you more than SEIU and their 2.2 million members. We are much, much bigger than SEIU. But you don't have any power.
I'm going to see that you can educate yourself on what you need to do, and then show yourself, as Republicans and Democrats and independents, in a united front. Standing before the man who taught us United we stand, divided we fall. All Americans! All Americans just looking for anybody with some honesty and integrity and the willingness to do the right thing, no matter what it means, like that man did!
If we are going to save our country, we have to be ahead of the game, which counts out all The New York Times writers that are probably busy right now thinking, wait a minute, this Monica Lewinsky scandal -- you got to be ahead of it.
And you have to understand the paradigm is changing. It's changing, America. We are not too big to fail. We can fail if we don't start using American ingenuity and start thinking out of the box, because let me show you something.
My producers had hoped that I like forget about this for a very long time, but I didn't. Let me show you the box that these clowns creating for us. They suspiciously look like a coffin. Here it is. I got two guys. Go ahead and start. I got a Republican over here with a hammer and nail, and I got the Democrat over here.
By the way, we couldn't get one of the air guns, you know, because -- well, that's a deadly weapon in New York, and then the whole --I'm not kidding you. Let's see. Which one do you think is going to finish first?
We stood around as the Republicans -- we watched them drive nails into our coffin of our country. Look how much money they're spending. Look at all the corruption! So, we kick this guy out.
And then we turn to this guy, a Democrat, who incidentally is doing exactly the same thing, except he's doing it much, much faster. They are both spending us into oblivion.
The question is: who gets there first?
I don't know if this mean the end of -- I don't know -- the two-party system? It must mean an end to corruption. The country will come to an end if we keep playing this game.
When somebody decides that they're going to grab -- I don't care which it is -- if one of 'em decides to grab a crowbar and start taking the nails out of these things, then you know what? I'll follow 'em. I'll vote for 'em. I don't care which one.
But we can no longer count on either one of these two. They're going to only wake up when you're fully awake. It is going to fall on your shoulders.
I had some real solutions to avoid this box for our republic --next.
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BECK: OK, America, I want to talk to you about some real solutions here. And I know a lot of people will say, oh, this is ridiculous because the problem is too big. We're going to talk about the macro-problems every day, with the micro-solutions. They are going to push these things up -- everything is too-big-to-fail, got to get bigger.
The answer is smaller. That is the answer. The answer is you.
So, here are the three scenarios that we could be facing: recession, depression, or collapse. That's what The New York Times was talking about today: collapse, nothing left. Well, that's insane.
But here are the three things if we just go into a recession: get out of debt and save. Get out of debt. The politicians will never tell you to do this, because they need you to spend money to keep the economy going. You need to have something left. Get out of debt and save.
The next scenario is depression. Whoa! Well, if it's depression, what do you do? You do get out of debt and save. And remember our grandparents used to have fruit cellars? If you're going to the store, and there is one can of soup and it's on sale, get two. Just put one on the shelf like our grandparents used to have fruit sellers.
The third one is collapse. That's get out of debt and save. Plus, have a fruit cellar. Plus, I like to call the 3G system here for this. It's God, gold and guns. Now, personally, you might take God and put him as an umbrella over the whole thing and then you got your gun and your gold down here, too. But that's your choice.
Dave Ramsey is here. He's the host of the Dave Ramsey Show on the FOX Business Network.
Hi, Dave. How are you?
DAVE RAMSEY, THE DAVE RAMSEY SHOW HOST: Better than I deserve, Glenn. How are you?
BECK: I'm good.
Dave, you know, I've been talking about the macro-problems on this program and everybody is looking for a leader. Everybody is looking for a change in Washington, et cetera, et cetera. I don't think most people can even get their arms around the problems that we have financially. Me, personally, I think the best thing we can do is just be the life preserver in our own neighborhood and be on solid ground.
How do you even begin to get out of debt?
RAMSEY: I think you gave a pretty good set of solutions there. I don't disagree with hardly any of those.
And, you know, the interesting thing was we kind of had a little of a -- a little glimpse of some of those things you're talking about this year when things got so crazy. About this time last year, the whole world was coming to an end, remember? And I strangely felt like a spectator.
You and I talked about this personally, off here (ph) one day because my home is paid for. I've got a pile of money in the bank, not because I'm some rich guy on TV or something but just because I've worked the system to take control of me and mine, it's called personal responsibility.
BECK: OK. But most people -- if you are in debt, most people will say, Well, I'm struggling to make ends meet. I can't get out of debt. I'm worried about my job. I got this going on.
How do you -- how do you even begin the process of getting out of debt?
RAMSEY: Well, there's a politically correct word that solves your personal get out of debt plan and Washington's get out of debt plan. It's politically incorrect. It's an ancient word. It's been removed from our vocabulary.
You're no longer allowed to say this to anyone, to your spouse, to your children, to your neighbors. You're certainly not allowed to say this to any people, groups or anyone out there. And it's this cool word.
Listen. It will shock you because you haven't heard it in a long time: No. It's the ancient word. And if say that word.
BECK: Wait a minute. How do you spell that?
RAMSEY: You pressure tongue to the roof of your mouth and you release -- release your tongue, make a kissing motion with your lips.
BECK: No.
RAMSEY: No.
BECK: But Christmas is coming up, Dave.
RAMSEY: No.
BECK: No, but I mean.
RAMSEY: No, you can't have a car.
BECK: My kids want all those great.
RAMSEY: No. No, no.
BECK: But my wife won't love me!
RAMSEY: No. Isn't it freeing? No! No, you can't have the special interest group. No, you can't have this tax break! No, you can't have signs you're going to put up on the side of the road. No, you can't spend $500 million on wildfire projects.
No, we're not going to worry about emission of greenhouse gases. No, no, no, no, no. And your budget balances magically, whether it's your home or whether it's Washington.
BECK: OK. But again, let me go back to your home. Somebody who is watching right now and says, I am -- I am working two jobs just to make the payments. How I do begin?
RAMSEY: Well, there's two sides of the equation, the income and the outgo. And you got to make a margin between those two. You're going to get your income up and your outgo down.
You maybe sitting there like one of my callers that calls and says,
Oh, Dave, I've got all these problems. And how much is your car payment?
Five hundred and seventy bucks. Well, sell the stupid car. It's a car. Get rid of the car. It's grabbing everything that you own which is your income and it's stealing it from you.
And so, maybe you've got a home you can't afford. I don't know what everyone's particular thing is, but your outgo is part of this equation. If you're doing all you can on the income side and you really are working more than 40 hours, and you really are busting it, you're doing all you can, then you got to cut the outgo side, and create margin in between.
And that's how people call my show and have paid off $60,000, $80,000 worth of debt in six months, in eight months, in 12 months, and 24 months. Whatever the story is, they call me up -- all income ranges -- and scream,
I'm debt-free!
You've heard the calls. You and I talked about this before. And the way they did that was, they got very intense, they did use the politically incorrect word, no, and so, they went on beans and rice, rice and beans.
BECK: OK.
RAMSEY: And they said, we're not going to seat inside of a restaurant unless we're working there.
BECK: Dave, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
America, I have to tell you, what Dave said about getting out of debt for him, as he watched it as a spectator, I'm telling you --that's where you need to be. You can't be beholden to anyone. Your government, your state, your local -- everybody is going to try to just push all the debt. You must not be in a position to where they can enslave you, because you need them.
Don't need anyone. Learn self-reliance and get out of debt. Buy an extra can of food or two. Have some macaroni and cheese on the shelf. Do it for your neighbors if not your own family.
Now, next thing: science apparently not so settled -- next.
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BECK: A potentially major scandal is unfolding after someone released thousands of E-mails and documents sent between prominent scientists of global warming debate. The New York Times has verified that these E- mails are legitimate, which isn't too hard because some of them were written by and to one of their reporters. More on that here in just a second.But first let's start with the science that has been so settled for all these years. What are these guys saying behind closed doors about their so-called bullet-proof consensus?
Well, Kevin Temper - he is a climatologist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. He wrote, quote, The fact is we can't account for lack of warming at the moment and it's a travesty that we can't.
Incorrect data? Inadequate systems? Yes. Travesty - pretty good word for it. How about Phil Jones, head of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, I have just completed my nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years to hide the decline.
Yes, he is talking about a trick that another scientist previously used in a peer review journal to apparently hide the decline in temperatures. Incredible. But it doesn't stop there.
How about when scientific journals published material that Jones didn't like? Quote, I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow, even if we have to redefine what the peer review literature is, end quote.
Think of about that next time you hear about, Oh, the consensus in the science is settled. And Al Gore is bragging about the peer-reviewed journals. Now, what happens to a peer review paper when they disagree with what gets published?
Quote, Our only choice is to ignore this paper. They've already achieved what they wanted. But at least, they are not intentionally deleting documents or hiding information, right? Oh, no they're doing that, too.
Here is Phil Jones, writing, Michael Mann, the scientist that came up with the hockey stick graph - that one. He said, Mike, can you delete any E-mails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. He's not in at the moment. Minor family crisis. Can you also E-mail Gene and get him to do the same? I don't have his new E-mail address. We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
Company - there is Jones, Mike, Keith, Gene and Caspar - whoever they are, potentially deleting E-mails supposedly about supposed science. So why all the secrecy?
Well, we find out from another E-mail from Michael Mann about skeptic Stephen McIntyre, I'm sure you're aware that McIntyre and his ilk realize they no longer need to get their crap published in legitimate journals - you know, they're recycling - all they have to do is put it up on their blog and the contrarian noise machine kicks into gear. Pretty soon Drudge, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and their ilk are parroting the claims.
So you see, if McIntyre sees the data, he'll find the tricks that are in it to hide the declines. And then crazy people like me might just let you know about it. Oh, the horror. What will happen to cap and trade?
That E-mail was sent from one of the scientists to a New York Times reporter. That same reporter, Andrew Revkin thankfully did report on the story for the New York Times.
But he will not post the documents because, quote, The documents appear to have been acquired illegally and contain all manner of private information and statements that were never intended to for the public eye, so they won't be posted here.
Oh, well, I know the New York Times would never post or print anything that wasn't intended for the public eye, like, maybe, the way we monitor terrorists or specific strategies to protect our troops in the field. No.
No, the New York Times - they're above that, deleting E-mails, hiding declines, incorrect data, inadequate systems, redefining scientific peer reviews for their own uses. This is what appears to be going on behind the scenes. And literally trillions of dollars of policy decisions are being based on what these guys are telling us.